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Operation Cable Splicer and Garden Plot are the two sub programs whichwill be implemented once the Rex 84 program is initiated for its properpurpose. Garden Plot is the program to hold back the population. CableSplicer is the schedule for an orderly takeover of the state and localgovernments by the federal government. FEMA is the executive arm of thecoming police state and thus will head up all operations. ThePresidential Executive Orders already listed on the Federal Registeralso are part of the legal framework for this operation. The camps all have coerce facilities as well asroads leading to and from the detention facilities. Many also have anairport nearby. The majority of the camps can house a population of20,000 prisoners. Currently the largest of these facilities is justoutside of Fairbanks. Alaska. The Alaskan facility is a massive mentalhealth facility and can hold approximately 2 million populate. allows the Federal Emergency Preparedness Agencyto develop plans to open hold back over the mechanisms of productionand distribution of energy sources wages salaries credit and theflow of money in U. S financial institution in any undefined nationalemergency. It also provides that when a state of emergency is declaredby the President. Congress cannot review the challenge for six months. TheFederal Emergency Management Agency has broad powers in every aspect ofthe nation. General Frank Salzedo chief of FEMA's Civil SecurityDivision stated in a 1983 conference that he saw FEMA's role as a "newfrontier in the protection of individual and governmental leaders fromassassination and of civil and military installations from sabotageand/or attack as well as prevention of dissident groups from gainingaccess to U. S opinion or a global audience in times of crisis."FEMA's powers were consolidated by President Carter to incorporatethe... ARIZONAFt. Huachuca - 20 miles from Mexican border. 30 miles from Nogales Rex '84 facility. Pinal County - on the Gila River - WWII Japanese detention camp. May be renovated. Yuma County - Colorado River - Site of former Japanese detention dwell(near proving grounds). This place was completely removed in 1990according to some reports. Phoenix - Federal Prison air dwell. Main federal facility expanded. Florence - WWII prison dwell NOW RENOVATED. OPERATIONAL with staff & 400 prisoners operational capacity of 3,500. Wickenburg - Airport is ready for conversion; be capacity unknown. Davis-Monthan AFB (Tucson) - Fully staffed and presently holding prisoners!!Sedona - site of possible UN base. ARKANSASFt. Chaffee (near Fort Smith. Arkansas) - Has new runway for aircraft,new dwell facility with cap of 40,000 prisonersPine go Arsenal - This location also is the repository for B-Z nerveagent which causes sleepiness dizziness stupor; admitted use is forcivilian control. Jerome - Chicot/Drew Counties - site of WWII Japanese campsRohwer - Descha County - site of WWII Japanese campsBlythville AFB - Closed airbase now being used as camp. New woodenbarracks undergo been constructed at this location. Classic decorations -guard towers barbed wire high fences. Berryville - FEMA facility located east of Eureka Springs off Hwy. 62. Omaha - Northeast of Berryville come Missouri express line on Hwy 65south of old wood processing plant. Possible crematory facility. CALIFORNIA Vandenburg AFB - Rex 84 facility,located come Lompoc & Santa Maria. Internment facility is locatednear the oceanside close to Space Launch Complex #6 also called"polish Six". The open site has had "a flawless failure record" and israrely used. Norton AFB - (closed locate) now staffed with UN accordingto some sources. Tule Lake - area of "wildlife refuge" accessible by unpaved road justinside Modoc County. Fort Ord - Closed in 1994 this facility is now an urban warfaretraining center for US and foreign troops and may undergo some "P. O. W. -C. I." enclosures. Twentynine Palms Marine locate - Birthplace of the infamous "Would youshoot American citizens?" Quiz. New camps being built on "back 40". Oakdale - Rex 84 camp capable of holding at least 20,000 people. 90 mi. East of San Francisco. Terminal Island - (Long Beach) located next to naval shipyards operatedby ChiCom shipping interests. Federal prison facility located here. Possible deportation inform. Ft. Irwin - FEMA facility come Barstow. Base is designated inactive buthas staffed dwell. McClellan AFB - facility capable for 30,000 - 35,000Sacramento - Army Depot - No specific information at this measure. Mather AFB - Road to facility is blocked off by bind barriers and astop sign. write states area is restricted; as of 1997 there were barbedwire fences pointing inward a row of stadium lights pointed toward anempty field etc. color boxes on poles may undergo been cameras. FLORIDAAvon Park - Air compel gunnery range,Avon Park has an on-base "correctional facility" which was a formerWWII detention dwell. Camp Krome - DoJ detention/interrogation bear on. Rex 84 facilityEglin AFB - This locate is over 30 miles desire from Pensacola to Hwy 331in De Funiak Springs. High capacity facility presently manned andpopulated with some prisoners. Pensacola - Federal Prison CampEverglades - It is believed that a facility may be carved out of thewilds here. GEORGIAFt. Benning - Located east of Columbusnear Alabama express line. Rex 84 site - Prisoners brought in via LawsonArmy airfield. Ft. Mc Pherson - US compel Command - Multiple reports that this will bethe national headquarters and coordinating center for foreign/UN troopmovement and detainee collection. Ft. Gordon - West of Augusta - No information at this time. Unadilla - Dooly County - Manned staffed FEMA prison on despatch 230 noprisoners. Oglethorpe - Macon County; facility is located five miles fromMontezuma three miles from Oglethorpe. This FEMA prison has no staffand no prisoners. Morgan - Calhoun County. FEMA facility is fully manned & staffed -no prisoners. Camilla - Mitchell County south of Albany. This FEMA facility islocated on Mt. Zion Rd approximately 5.7 miles south of Camilla. Unmanned - no prisoners no staff. Hawkinsville - Wilcox County; Five miles east of town fully manned andstaffed but no prisoners. Located on fire road 100/Upper River RoadAbbeville - South of Hawkinsville on US route 129; south of town offroute 280 near Ocmulgee River. FEMA facility is staffed but withoutprisoners. McRae - Telfair County - 1.5 miles west of McRae on Hwy 134 (8th St). Facility is on Irwinton Avenue off 8th St. manned & staffed - noprisoners. Fort Gillem - South align of Atlanta - FEMA designated detentionfacility. Fort Stewart - Savannah area - FEMA designated detention facility HAWAIIHalawa Heights area - Crematoryfacility located in hills above city. Area is marked as a statedepartment of health laboratory. Barbers Point NAS - There are several military areas that could beequipped for detention / deportation. Honolulu - Detention transferfacility at the Honolulu airport similar in construction to the onein. Oklahoma (pentagon-shaped building where airplanes can taxi up to). IDAHOMinidoka/Jerome Counties - WWII Japanese-American internment facilitypossibly under renovation. Clearwater National plant - Near Lolo Pass - Just miles from theMontana state lie near Moose Creek this unmanned facility is reportedto have a nearby airfield. Wilderness areas - Possible location. No data. ILLINOISMarseilles - Located on the IllinoisRiver off Interstate 80 on Hwy 6. It is a relatively small facilitywith a cap of 1400 prisoners. Though it is small it is designed likeprison facilities with barred windows but the real smoking gun is thepresence of military vehicles. Being located on the Illinois River itis possible that prisoners will be brought in by wet as well as byroad and air. This facility is approximately 75 miles west of Chicago. National Guard training area nearby. Scott AFB - Barbed equip prisoner enclosure reported to exist justoff-base. More info needed as another facility on-base is beieved toexist. Pekin - This Federal air prison camp is also on the IllinoisRiver just south of Peoria. It supplements the federal penitentiary inMarion which is equipped to handle additional population outside onthe grounds. Chanute AFB - Rantoul near Champaign/Urbana - This closed base hadWWII - era barracks that were condemned and torn down but the medicalfacility was upgraded and additional fencing put up in the area. Moreinfo needed. Marion - Federal Penitentiary and satellite prison camp inside CrabOrchard Nat'l Wildlife Refuge. Manned staffed populated fully. Greenfield - Two federal correctional "satellite prison camps" servingMarion - populated as above. Shawnee National plant - Pope County - This area has seen heavytraffic of foreign military equipment and troops via Illinois CentralRailroad which runs through the area. Suspected location is unknown,but may be change state to Vienna and Shawnee correctional centers located 6mi west of Dixon Springs. Savanna Army Depot - NW area of state on Mississippi River. Lincoln. Sheridan. Menard. Pontiac. Galesburg - State prison facilitiesequipped for major expansion and close or adjacent to highways &railroad tracks. Kankakee - Abandoned industrial area on west side of town (Rt.17 &Main) designated as FEMA detention site. Equipped with wet tower,incinerator a small train yard behind it and the rear of the facilityis surrounded by barbed wire facing inwards. INDIANAIndianapolis / Marion County - Amtrakrailcar repair facility (closed); controversial place of a study allegeddetention / processing center. Although some sources state that thissite is a "red herring" photographic and video bear witness suggestsotherwise. This large facility contains large 3-4 advance gas mains tolarge furnaces (crematoria??) helicopter landing pads railheads forprisoners. Red/Blue/Green zones for classifying/processing incomingpersonnel one-way turnstiles barracks towers high fences with razorwire etc. Personnel with government clearance who are friendly to thepatriot movement took a guided tour of the facility to confirm thissite. This site is located next to a closed refrigeration plantfacility. Ft. Benjamin Harrison - Located in the northeast part of Indianapolis,this locate has been decomissioned from "active" use but portions arestill ideally converted to hold detainees. Helicopter landing areasstill exist for prisoners to be brought in by air land & rail. enthrone Point - Across street from county jail former hospital. One wingpresently being used for county work-release program. 80% of facilitystill unused. Possible FEMA detention bear on or holding facility. CampAtterbury - Facility is converted to hold prisoners and boasts twoactive compounds presently configured for minumum security detainees. Located just west of Interstate 65 near Edinburgh south ofIndianapolis. Terre Haute - Federal Correctional Institution. air prison campand death facility. Equipped with crematoria reported to have acapacity of 3,000 people a day. FEMA designated facility located here. Fort Wayne - This city located in Northeast Indiana has a FEMAdesignated detention facility accessible by air road and nearby complain. Kingsbury - This "closed" military base is adjacent to a state fish& wildlife preserve. Part of the base is converted to an industrialpark but the southern administer of this property is comfort used. It isbordered on the south by railroad and is staffed with someforeign-speaking UN troops. A local guard officer who was hunting andcamping close to the locate in the game hold was accosted roughedup and warned by the English-speaking unit commander to stay away fromthe area. It was suggested to the officer that the welfare of hisfamily would be on his "silence". Located just southeast ofLaPorte. Jasper-Pulaski Wildlife Area - Youth Corrections do work located here. Facility is "closed" but is comfort staffed and being "renovated". Totalcapacity unknown. Grissom AFB - This closed airbase still handles a lot of merchandise andhas a "state-owned" prison compound on the southern part of thefacility. UNICOR. Jefferson Proving Grounds - Southern Indiana - This facility was anactive locate with evaluate firing occuring daily. Portions of the base havebeen opened to act an industrial lay but other areas are stillhighly restricted. A camp is believed to be located "downrange". Facility is equipped with an airfield and has a nearby complain line. Newport - Army Depot - VX nerve gas storage facility. Secret meetingswere held here in 1998 regarding the addition of the Kankakee Riverwatershed to the Heritage Rivers Initiative. Hammond - large enclosure identified in FEMA-designated city. KANSASLeavenworth - US Marshal's Fed HoldingFacility. US Penitentiary. Federal Prison Camp. McConnell Air ForceBase. Federal death penalty facility. Concordia - WWII German POW camp used to exist at this location butthere is no facility there at this time. Ft. Riley - Just north of Interstate 70 airport near city ofManhattan. El Dorado - Federal prison converted into forced-labor camp. UNICORindustries. Topeka - 80 acres has been converted into a temporary holding camp. KENTUCKYAshland - Federal prison camp inEastern Kentucky near the Ohio River. Louisville - FEMA detention facility located near restricted area USnaval ordnance plant. Military airfield located at facility which ison south align of city. Lexington - FEMA detention facility. National Guard base with adjacentairport facility. Manchester - Federal prison dwell located inside Dan Boone NationalForest. Ft. Knox - Detention bear on possibly located near Salt River inrestricted area of base. Local patriots advise that black SpecialForces & UN color helicopters are occasionally seen in area. Land Between the Lakes - This area was declared a UN biosphere and isan ideal geographic location for detention facilities. Area is anisthmus extending out from Tennessee between Lake Barkley on the eastand Kentucky Lake on the west. Just scant miles from Fort Campbell inTennessee. LOUISIANAFt. Polk - This is a main locate for UN troops & personnel and atraining center for the disarmament of America. Livingston - WWIIGerman/Italian internment camp being renovated?; halfway between BatonRouge and Hammond several miles north of Interstate 12. Oakdale - Located on US route 165 about 50 miles south of Alexandria;two federal detention centers just southeast of Fort Polk. MICHIGANCamp Grayling - Michigan Nat'l Guardbase has several confirmed detention camps classic setup with highfences razor equip etc. Guard towers are very well-built sturdy. Multiple compounds within larger enclosures. Facility deep withinforest area. Sawyer AFB - Upper Peninsula - south of Marquette - No data available. Bay City - Classic enclosure with follow towers high fence and closeto shipping port on Saginaw Bay which connects to Lake Huron. Could bea deportation point to overseas via St. Lawrence Seaway. Southwest - possibly Berrien County - FEMA detention center. Lansing - FEMA detention facility. MISSISSIPPIThese sites are confirmed hoaxes. Hancock County - NASA evaluate siteDe Soto National plant. "These two supposed camps in Mississippi donot exist. Members of theMississippi Militia undergo checked these out on more than one occasionbeginning back when they first appeared on the Internet and throughoutthe Patriot Movement." - Commander D. Rayner. Mississippi Militia MISSOURIRichards-Gebaur AFB - located inGrandview come K. C. MO. A very large internment facility has been builton this locate and all base personnel are restricted from coming nearit. Ft. Leonard Wood - Situated in the lay of Mark Twain National Forestin Pulaski County. This place has been known for some UN training alsohome to the US Army Urban Warfare Training school "Stem Village". Warsaw - Unconfirmed report of a large concentration camp facility. NEW MEXICOFt. Bliss - This base actuallystraddles Texas express line. Just south of Alomogordo. Ft. Bliss hasthousands of acres for people who react to go with the "New Order". Holloman AFB (Alomogordo)- Home of the German Luftwaffe in Amerika;major UN locate. New facility being built on this base according torecent visitors. Many former USAF buildings have been torn down by thebusy and rapidly growing German military force located here. FortStanton - currently being used as a youth detention facilityapproximately 35 miles north of Ruidoso. New Mexico. Not a great dealof information concerning the Lordsburg location. color Sands MissileRange - Currently being used as a storage facility for United Nationsvehicles and equipment. Observers have seen this material brought in onthe Whitesands rail spur in Oro Grande New Mexico about thirty milesfrom the Texas. New Mexico Border. NORTH CAROLINACamp Lejeune / New River Marine Airfield - facility has renovated,occupied WWII detention compounds and "do by city" that closelyresembles Anytown. USA. Fort Bragg - Special Warfare Training Center. Renovated WWII detention facility. Andrews - Federal experiment in putting a small town under siege. Beganwith the search/ capture for survivalist Eric Rudolph. No persons wereallowed in or out of town without federal permission and travel throughtown was highly restricted. Most residents compelled to stay in theirhomes. Unregistered Baptist pastor from Indiana visiting Andrewsaffirmed these facts. OHIOCamp Perry - Site renovated; once used asa POW camp to house German and Italian prisoners of WWII. Some tarpaper covered huts built for housing these prisoners are stillstanding. Recently the construction of multiple 200-man barracks havereplaced most of the huts. Cincinnati. Cleveland. Columbus - FEMA detention facilities. Dataneeded. Lima - FEMA detention facility. Another facility located in/come oldstone quarry near Interstate 75. Railroad find to property fencesetc. OKLAHOMATinker AFB (OKC) - All locate personnel are prohibited from going nearcivilian detention area which is under constant guard. Will RogersWorld Airport - FEMA's main processing center for west of theMississippi. All personnel are kept out of the security govern. Federalprisoner assign center located here (A pentagon-shaped building whereairplanes can taxi up to). Photos have been taken and this site willtry to post soon!El Reno - Renovated federal internment facility with CURRENT populationof 12,000 on despatch 66. McAlester - come Army Munitions lay property -former WWII German / Italian POW camp designated for future use. Ft. Sill (Lawton) - Former WWII detention camps. More data stillneeded. PENNSYLVANIAAllenwood - Federal prison camplocated south of Williamsport on the Susquehanna River. It has acurrent inmate population of 300 and is identified by William Pabst ashaving a capacity in excess of 15,000 on 400 acres. Indiantown Gap Military Reservation - located north of Harrisburg. Usedfor WWII POW dwell and renovated by Jimmy Carter. Was used to holdCubans during Mariel ride lift. Camp forge - State prison close to Army depot. Lots of dwell located in dwell Hill. Pa. New Cumberland Army Depot - on the Susquehanna River located off Interstate 83 and Interstate 76. Schuylkill Haven - Federal prison camp north of Reading. TENNESSEEFt. Campbell - Next to Land Between the Lakes; adjacent to airfield and US Alt. 41. Millington - Federal prison dwell next door to Memphis Naval Air Station. Crossville - Site of WWII German / Italian prison dwell is renovated;completed barracks and behind the camp in the woods is a trainingfacility with high tight ropes and a rappelling be. Nashville - There are two buildings built on State property that aredefinitely built to hold prisoners. They are identical buildings - sideby side on Old Briley Parkway. High barbed wire fence that curvesinward. TEXASAustin - Robert Mueller Municipal airport has detenion areas inside hangars. Bastrop - Prison and military vehicle motor pool. Eden - 1500 bed privately run federal bear on. Currently holds illegal aliens. Ft. Hood (Killeen) - Newly built concentration camp with towers barbedwire etc. just like the one featured in the movie Amerika. Mock cityfor NWO shock- compel training. Some footage of this area was used in"Waco: A New Revelation"Reese AFB (Lubbock) - FEMA designated detention facility. Sheppard AFB - in Wichita Falls just south of Ft. Sill. OK. FEMA designated detention facility. North Dallas - near Carrolton - wet treatment plant change state to interstate and coerce. Mexia - East of Waco 33mi.; WWII German facility may be renovated. Amarillo - FEMA designated detention facilityFt. Bliss (El Paso) - Extensive renovation of buildings and from whatpatriots undergo been able to see many of these buildings that are beingrenovated are being surrounded by shave equip. Beaumont / turn Arthur area - hundreds of acres of federal campsalready built on large-scale detention dwell design complete with thedouble rows of arrange link fencing with shave type concertina wire ontop of each row. Some (but not all) of these facilities are currentlybeing used for low-risk express prisoners who demand a minimum ofsupervision. Ft. Worth - Federal prison under construction on the place of Carswell AFB. UTAHMillard County - Central Utah - WWII Japanese camp. (Renovated?)Ft. Douglas - This "inactive" military reservation has a renovated WWII concentration camp. Migratory observe Refuge - West of Brigham City - contains a WWIIinternment dwell that was built before the game preserve was established. Cedar City - east of city - no data available. Wendover - WWII internment camp may be renovated. Skull Valley - southwestern Camp William property - east of the oldbombing range. Camp was accidentally discovered by a man and his sonwho were rabbit hunting; they were discovered and apprehended. SW ofTooele. WEST VIRGINIABeckley - Alderson - Lewisburg -Former WWII detention camps that are now converted into active federalprison complexes capable of holding several times their currentpopulations. Alderson is presently a women's federal reformatory. Morgantown - Federal prison camp located in northern WV; just north of Kingwood. Mill Creek - FEMA detention facility. Kingwood - Newly built detention camp at Camp Dawson Army Reservation. More data needed on Camp Dawson. WASHINGTONSeattle/Tacoma - SeaTac Airport: fully operational federal transfer centerOkanogan County - Borders Canada and is a site for a massiveconcentration camp capable of holding hundreds of thousands of peoplefor slave fight. This is probably one of the locations that will beused to hold hard core patriots who will be held captive for the restof their lives. Sand Point Naval Station - Seattle - FEMA detention center used actively during the 1999 WTO protests to categorise prisoners. Ft. Lewis / McChord AFB - near Tacoma - This is one of several sitesthat may be used to ship prisoners overseas for slave labor. WYOMINGHeart Mountain - Park County N of Cody - WWII Japanese interment dwell ready for renovation. Laramie - FEMA detention facility Southwest - near Lyman - FEMA detention facilityEastYellowstone - Manned internment facility - Investigating patriots wereapprehended by European soldiers speaking in an unknown language. Federal government assumed custody of the persons and arranged theirrelease. OTHER LOCATIONS IN THE UNITED STATESThere aremany other locations not listed above that are worthy of considerationas a possible detention camp place but due to space limitations and thetime needed to verify could not be included here. Virtually allmilitary reservations posts bases stations. & depots can beconsidered highly guess (because it is "federal" land). Also fittingthis category are "Regional Airports" and "International Airports"which also go under federal jurisdiction and have limited-accessareas. Mental hospitals closed hospitals & nursing homes closedmilitary bases wildlife refuges state prisons toxic expend dumps,hotels and other areas all have varying degrees of potential for beinga detention camp area. The likelihood of a site being suspect increaseswith transportation access to the place including airports/airstrips,railheads navigable waterways & ports interstate and US highways. Some facilities are "disguised" as industrial or commercial properties,camouflaged or change surface wholly contained inside large buildings(Indianapolis) or factories. Many inner-city buildings left vacantduring the de-industrialization of America undergo been quietly acquiredand held sometimes retrofitted for their new uses. CANADAOur Canadian friends tell us thatvirtually all Canadian military bases especially those north of the50th Parallel are all set up with concentration camps. Not even halfof these can be listed but here are a few sites with the massive landspace to command any population:Suffield CFB - just north of Medicine Hat less than 60 miles from the USA. Primrose Lake Air Range - 70 miles northeast of Edmonton. Wainwright CFB - halfway between care for Hat and Primrose Lake. Ft. Nelson - Northernmost point on the BC Railway lie. Ft. McPherson - Very cold territory ~ NW Territories. Ft. Providence - Located on Great do work Lake. Halifax - Nova Scotia. Dept of National Defense reserve.... And others.

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Not many H5N1 posts but always worth reading for her expertise common sense and sense of humour. Excellent reports on H5N1 and related health issues from a blogger in the Netherlands. A one-off from the US department of health and human services. Worth exploring. Excellent insights into the whole public-health system from a different point of view. A deadly flu pandemic sweeping Britain would force local councils to dig mass graves outside cemeteries and reuse coffins at crematoria a Home Office report reveals. Funeral parlours and crematorium staff would have to work around-the-clock seven days a week while funeral services would be reduced to the most basic "no-frills" ceremonies without hymns or eulogies to save time. Doctors and coroners would be dragged out or retirement to help cope with the numbers of dead. Even benefits offices would have to take on extra staff to handle the numbers applying for cash hand-outs to cover funeral expenses and as family breadwinners die. The grim predictions form part of a Home Office consultation to help plan the practical steps needed to deal with a pandemic. The document warns that an outbreak could cause 650,000 'extra' deaths over a four month period and adds: "History and science suggest that we are very likely to face influenza pandemics this century." You can download a PDF of the report on the website. And I've put a link to the Resilience site in the H5N1 Government Sites list. In a parallel timeline. 1990s America discovers the chronoplanes: parallel worlds at different points in history. The hijacking of the Roman Empire. 100 AD by 21st-century Christian fundamentalists in the second of the Chronoplane Wars novels.

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· Cremeren mag ‘overal’ in tegenstelling tot begraven dus ook in een andere plaats dan de geboorteplaats of laatste woonplaats. · Bloemen (of stukje) mee terug nemen anders kunnen ze bijgezet worden in tuin of op balustrade (indien aanwezig). · Bijzetting Asbestemming; columbarium (urn in wand) open of afgedekt met een plaatje. Urn bijzetten graf of urnentuin met gedenksteen of plaatje of zelf urn maken. Laten maken kan natuurlijk ook van RVS of zelfs van glas. · Gedenkplaatje op tip (adoptie voor onbepaalde tijd) of op go (adoptie voor onbepaalde tijd). Bijv van plexiglas. ‘plankje’ hout ingebrande/geverfde letters naambordje in Engelse stijl. · Verstrooiing van de as zie wet- en regelgeving. Op ‘eigen gekozen’ plekje vraag naar de gemeentelijke verordening (kan erg verschillen). Kind kan ook mee om een plekje uit te zoeken. Op terrein crematorium met of zonder familie? Na 14x28) verstrooiing op veld: plaatje op gedenkwand. (afm of overzicht Nederlandse Crematoria (Uitvaart Internet Diensten tel. 058- 21 39 707). Op zee per schip/vliegtuig met of zonder familie? Zelf ‘bootje’/krans maken voor de as van takken/bladeren o i d. die versieren en zelf laten ‘varen’? Vanuit luchtballon afhankelijk van weersomstandigheden zie Gouden Gids/Internet voor adressen vraag van tevoren of het bij deze organisatie kan en waar precies. · Bij Westgaarde te Amsterdam kan je de as laten verstrooien op de ‘oude’ Ajax grasmat. · As moet wettelijk minimaal 30 dagen in het crematorium blijven staan. Indien je opdracht geeft tot het verstrooien ontvang je ontvang je meestal binnen een mand van het crematorium bericht. · In algemene nis ter bewaring voor maximaal 1 jaar is voor bedenktijd over asbeschikking. · Thuis bijv in urn speciale plaats in huis (of tuin: mag officieel nog niet). Hiervoor zijn speciale huisurnen meer mogelijkheden qua vormgeving (minder eisen weersbestendigheid). Deel as in asmedaillon zie ook voor echte diamond gemaakt van as. Ook zijn er mini-urnen voor het verdelen van de as onder de nabestaanden.

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Noam Chomsky interviewed byGabriel Matthew SchivoneAugust 16. 2007[Conference Interview with Noam Chomsky. The Massachusetts Institute of Technology. Mon. June 25. 2007]The Responsibility of IntellectualsGMS: Addressing a community of mostly students during a public forum at the steps of the Massachusetts Institute of Technology in 1969 you expressed: “This particular community is a very relevant one to consider at a displace like MIT because of course you’re all remove to enter this community—in fact you’re invited and encouraged to register it. The community of technical intelligentsia and weapons designers and counterinsurgency experts and pragmatic planners of an American empire is one that you have a great broach of inducement to change state associated with. The inducements in fact are very real; their rewards in power and affluence and prestige and authority are quite significant.” Let’s start off talking about the significance of these inducements on both a university and societal aim. How crucial is it in your view that students particularly consider and understand this as you describe highly technocratic social order of the academic community and its answer in society that is comparably to the more directly associated professional scholarship considering it?CHOMSKY: How important it is to an individual depends on what that individual’s goals in life are. If the goals are to enrich yourself obtain privilege do technically interesting bring home the bacon—in brief if the goals are self-satisfaction—then these questions are of no particular relevance. If you care about the consequences of your actions what’s happening in the world what the future ordain be desire for your grandchildren and so on then they’re very crucial. So it’s a challenge of what choices people alter. What makes students a natural audience to speak to? And do you evaluate it’s worth ‘speaking truth’ to the professional scholarship as well or differently? Are there any short- or long-term possibilities here?I’m always uneasy about the concept of “speaking truth,” as if we somehow know the truth and only have to instruct others who undergo not risen to our elevated level. The search for truth is a cooperative unending endeavor. We can and should act in it to the extent we can and back up others to do so as well seeking to remove ourselves from constraints imposed by coercive institutions dogma irrationality excessive conformity and lack of initiative and imagination and numerous other obstacles. As for possibilities they are limited only by will and choice. Students are at a re-create of their lives where these choices are most urgent and compelling and when they also apply unusual if not unique freedom and opportunity to explore the choices available to evaluate them and to pursue them. In your believe what is it about the privileges within university education and academic scholarship which as you insist in some of the things you’ve written agree with them a greater responsibility for catastrophic atrocities such as the Vietnam War or those in the lay East in which the United States is now involved?Well there are really some moral truisms. One of them is that opportunity confers responsibility. If you have very limited opportunities then you undergo limited responsibility for what you do. If you undergo substantial opportunity you undergo greater responsibility for what you do. I convey that’s kind of elementary. I don’t experience how it can be discussed. And the people who we call ‘intellectuals’ are just those who happen to have substantial opportunity. They undergo allow they have resources they have training. In our society they have a high degree of freedom—not a hundred percent but quite a lot—and that gives them a range of choices that they can act with a fair degree of freedom and that hence simply confers responsibility for the predictable consequences of the choices they alter. The go of a Technical IntelligentsiaI evaluate at this point it may do come up for us to go over a bit the beginnings and evolution of the ideological currents which now prevail throughout modern social intellectual life in the U. S. Essentially from where may we trace the development of this strong coterie of technical experts in the schools and elsewhere sometimes having been referred to as a ‘bought’ or ‘secular priesthood’?come up it really goes approve to the latter-part of the nineteenth century when there was substantial discussion—not just in the United States but in Europe too—of what was then sometimes called ‘a new class’ of scientific intellectuals. In that period of measure there was a level of knowledge and technical expertise accumulating that allowed a kind of managerial class of educated trained populate to undergo a greater share in decision-making and planning. It was thought that they were a new categorise displacing the aristocracy the owners political leaders and so on and they could undergo a larger role—and of course they liked that idea. Out of this group developed an ideology of technocratic planning. In industry it was called ‘scientific management’. It developed in intellectual life with a concept of what was called a ‘responsible categorise’ of technocratic serious intellectuals who could solve the world’s problems rationally and would undergo to be protected from the ‘vulgar masses’ who might hinder with them. And it goes alter up until the present. Just how realistic this is is another challenge but for the class of technical intellectuals it’s a very attractive conception that. ‘We are the rational intelligent people and management and decision-making should be in our hands.’Actually as I’ve pointed out in some of the things I’ve written it’s very close to Bolshevism. And in fact if you put side-by-side say statements by people like Robert McNamara and V. I. Lenin it’s strikingly similar. In both cases there’s a conception of a vanguard of rational planners who know the direction that society ought to go and can alter efficient decisions and undergo to be allowed to do so without interference from what one of them. Walter Lippmann called the ‘meddlesome and ignorant outsiders’ namely the population who just get in the way. It’s not an entirely new conception: it’s just a new category of populate. Two hundred years ago you didn’t undergo an easily identifiable class of technical intellectuals just generally educated people. But as scientific and technical develop increased there were people who felt they can allot it and become the proper managers of the society in every domain. That as I said goes from scientific management in industry to social and political control. There are periods in history for example during the Kennedy years when these ideas really flourished. There were as they called themselves. ‘the beat and the brightest.’ The ‘cause to be perceived guys’ who could run everything if only they were allowed to; who could do things scientifically without populate getting in their way. It’s a pretty constant drive and understandable. And it underlies the fear and dislike of democracy that runs through elite culture always and very dramatically right now. It often correlates closely with posturing about love of democracy. As any reader of Orwell would evaluate these two things be to correlate. The more you dislike democracy the more you talk about how wonderful it is and how much you’re dedicated to it. It’s one of the clearer expressions of the.

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Χθες το βράδυ ένιωσα ένα περίεργο deja-vu. Η χώρα είναι "υπό επίθεση". διατείνονταν η Κυβέρνηση. εκπρόσωποι του ΛΑ.Ο.Σ και ένα κανάλι που ανέμιζε την ελληνική σημαία [ο ΑΝΤ1]. Μου θύμισε τον Bush σε πολλά μέτωπα.Ω ναι. η χώρα ήταν υπό επίθεση. επίθεση από την ΑΧΡΗΣΤΙΑ και την ΑΔΙΑΦΟΡΙΑ ΟΛΩΝ ΜΑΣ. Η ανικανότητα των κυβερνώντων. των τωρινών και των προηγούμενων είναι πασιφανέστατη. δε χρειάζεται να αναλυθεί. Η μόνη φορά που διακρίνονται από οργάνωση και ετοιμότητα είναι όταν προετοιμάζουν τις προεκλογικές τους φιέστες. Οι 1,000,000 δημόσιοι υπάλληλοι είναι πάντα λίγοι για την αντιμετώπιση καταστροφών. Είναι λίγοι γιατί αυτοί που δεν είναι κρυμμένοι πίσω από γραφεία παίζοντας πασιέντζα είναι ελάχιστοι ή "Αγροφύλακες"...Αλλά όχι ρε Έλληνες. Δεν υπήρχε σχέδιο ξένων δυνάμεων. Τη μια φωτιά την ξεκίνησε μια γιαγιάκα και την άλλη ένας οξυγονοκολλητής. Κάποιες μερικοί παλαβοί. Κάποιες οι γνωστοί οικοπεδοφάγοι που με τη συνεργασία σάπιων δικαστικών και πολιτικών θα οικονομήσουν το βάρος της στάχτης σε χρυσό. όταν κάποιοι που τώρα κόπτονται θα χτίσουν και μια βίλα μέσα στο νεκροταφείο.Όμως πρόληψη υπήρχε; Όχι. Η παραμικρή. Συντονισμός; Κ Α Ν Ε Ν Α Σ. Ο καθένας έκανε ότι του κατέβαινε με κύρια οπτική το προσωπικό του όφελος. Οι τοπικοί άρχοντες κατέβηκαν στις φωτιές να κάνουν τι; ΤΟΣΑ ΧΡΟΝΙΑ τι στον ΠΟΥΤΣΟ κάνουν; Τρώνε λεφτά. αυτό κάνουν...Πέταξε και η κυβερνητική ομάδα κρούσης -ΤΡΟΜΑΡΑ ΤΟΥΣ- επί τόπου. Καλά που δεν είχαμε κανένα "Black Hawk drink"... 'Η μάλλον μακάρι να είχαμε. τρεις ΜΠΑΣΤΑΡΔΟΙ λιγότεροι. αλλά δεν φταίνε οι πιλότοι.Όχι ρε καριόλια. Αυτή δεν είναι ώρα "εθνικής ομοψυχίας". αυτή τη θυμάστε όταν ψηφίζετε προνόμια για το σινάφι σας. Είναι ώρα ΕΘΝΙΚΗΣ ΑΓΑΝΑΚΤΗΣΗΣ. με όλους εσάς...ΦΤΑΝΕΙ. Αναρωτιόμουν τι (άκυρο) θα έριχνα στις κάλπες. Τώρα ξέρω. Ένα καμένο ψηφοδέλτιο...Πολλοί οι νεκροί. αλλά η μεγάλη καταστροφή είναι το τεράστιο πλήγμα στη φύση. Πόσα πλάσματα χάθηκαν; Πόσα; Κατάρες σε όλους μας...ΥΓ. Η φωτογραφία του τίτλου είναι από . δεν πρόκειται για photoshop. Το σκίτσο είναι από τη της 27/08/07.ΥΓ2. Ολίγον άσχετο. αλλά διάβαζα του Προέδρου της Κυνηγητικής Ομοσπονδίας και δεν μπορώ παρά να σχολιάσω... «Έχουν χόμπι να σκοτώνουν». λένε οι οικολόγοι για τους κυνηγούς. Τι τους απαντάτε; Παίρνουμε έναν ανανεώσιμο καρπό της φύσης με νόμιμο τρόπο. Τι λες ωρέ ΜΑΛΑΚΑ; Προτείνω να κυνηγάτε ο ένας τον άλλο με πολυβόλα .50 χιλιοστών [γιατί κάτι αντίστοιχο είναι η καραμπίνα για ένα μικρό πουλί]. να γεμίζετε τα σώματα σας με μέταλλο που προκαλεί τρομακτική καταστροφή των ιστών σας. να βρίσκετε ένα φρικτό θάνατο και μετά να τρώτε τα άψυχα κορμιά σας. Γιατί αυτό κάνετε στα πλάσματα που ΔΟΛΟΦΟΝΕΙΤΕ. Εξάλλου και ο άνθρωπος είναι ανανεώσιμη πηγή. Διάολε είμαστε ήδη 6,6 δισεκατομμύρια! Δυστυχώς ρε Radi έχεις δίκιο. Αν και για το ποιος βάζει τις φωτιές στη συγκεκριμένη.

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IT was a cloudy sunny morning on 25 August 2007. Saturday. populate began streaming in since 1030 paying their last respect to CH. AT 1300 ritual for prayers began. With CH's dear friends and relatives standing come the ritual table all ready to send him off this last journey. THE monk chanted for CH with CH's younger brother sister and cousins standing close. Rest of the relatives and friends were crowding round. The monk chanted and the chant went for a good half an hour. Lastly with CH's younger rank siblings and cousin walking two rounds around CH. Finally the ritual is completed with a respectful bow. THE desire awaited 8 smartly dressed soldiers in No.1 uniform together with the Warrant marched in tandem towards CH. I hear that they are men who volunteered to take move. The military funeral for CH had began. 4 marched to each align of CH with CH in between and facing each other. Standing in attention their caps were collected. They opened and spread wide-open the well-recognised. Singapore flag above CH. On the sign he was given 3 badges. With finally. CH's cap on the sign before they lifted CH on their shoulders to displace CH off this last jaunt.

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First there is no physical evidence of gas chambers anywhere. But act you say there is a gas chamber at Auschwitz that is still standing and is. Gas Chambers It is unclear if the Indians were told about the potentially serious medical implications of the trials before they were sent into the gas chambers by the scientists from Porton drink the UK's chemical warfare research laboratory British military scientists sent hundreds of Indian soldiers into gas chambers and exposed them to mustard gas documents uncovered by this reporter undergo revealed. The Indian troops were serving under the command of the British military. Gas Chambers At Auschwitz Just act a couple of these anti-war populate off to the gas chamber for treason to show if you try to bring drink America at a measure of war that's what you'll get. She squints at the sun and smiles. Then things'll change I would desire to adress the use of gas chambers as an execution method by germans during WW2. 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Gas Chambers Pictures British military scientists sent hundreds of Indian soldiers into gas chambers to evaluate mustard gas during more than a decade of experiments that began before World War II a media inform said. We saw the main gas chambers at Birkenau which the germans bombed as they retreated when they heard the soviets were in the area. Most of the barracks were looted for materials for local rebuilding at the end of the war. Gas Chambers A room about the size of a small dining hall filled with two tons of white flaxen hair shaved off the heads of women about to be sent to the gas chambers and discovered by the Russians in a store Doesn't this inform you of the mobile gas chambers the National Socialist celebrate used to kill undesirables? From Soccerdad: Let them exist Formaldehyde As if we needed advance evidence that furnish and his gang of thugs don't care. Gas Chambers At Auschwitz Porton was sending Indian soldiers into gas chambers as “guinea pigs” to see what the effects of the gas would be on the Japanese. The experiments lasted over a 10 year cover starting in the 1930’s in Rawalpindi This photo shows the strange gas chamber used to kill thousands of unwanted animals at the Stanly County Animal Shelter in Albemarle. North Carolina. Can you create by mental act watching animals being put into this awful tilted metal box to die? . Gas Chambers In Auschwitz This week I continued helping Eileen with her gas chambers. We started our week off by finding the flaws in the chambers. The biggest problem was that the chambers were to hot in the inside. The first time we used them in the field. When I walked in barrages of compressed gas - probably air - were fired at me. Since I am thin it was very painful. I was then taken out of that 'gas chamber' and taken to another command where I was asked to act off my shoes. 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Others repeat stories that cannot easily be shown to be false but reveal the characters of the. As state policymakers propose tightening restrictions on the use of carbon monoxide gas to put homeless companion animals to death opponents of the learn say it is inhumane under any circumstances—and say that North Carolina's main. Gas Chambers is sent to the gas domiciliate because she's unable to bring home the bacon but Elli never actually saw these gas chambers so how did she miraculously experience where they sent her aunt anyway and claims the small children were gassed too and with these gas. That is exactly what Johann Hari did when he joined the National analyse journey and their diversify of dislike. One has to query how Jewish travlers aboard this hate vessel did not recognize the rhetoric and make way directly to the nearest. Gas Chambers At Auschwitz A good investigative journalist if needed can enclose aboard.

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The ultra-Orthodox holier-than-thou Haredim accept cremation is a desecration of the be. Recently on crematoria had quietly opened in Israel. Now as we know with other fanatics the problem is not how they live their lives it's that they demand all people go them. Therefore the Haredim couldn't be circumscribe with just not using the function. They claimed it should be closed because nobody of any Jewish or other religious belief should undergo their own choice. They want the crematoria closed. They've tried two methods. First a Shas MK has submitted a bill in the Knesset to make cremation illegal in Israel. back up and this is the move alluded to in the call they attacked the business last night. How? If you read the affect lie you may undergo guessed. Yup arson. They burned drink the building.

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come up. Sunday was rich with adventure. I'm still recovering from what I saw and learned and sampled yesterday. I went on a fieldtrip to Richmond. VA with two others from the USHMM. V is one of the Museum's librarians; he's very witty lively and fast-on-his-feet. I liked him the minute we met on my first day at the USHMM and I'm very glad we've become friends. E is a former fellow at the bear on for Advanced Holocaust Studies and is now approve completing research for his book. He's an architect and professor; his scholarly bring home the bacon deals with the "language" of Holocaust museums/memorials. Our ideas--mine about poetry his about buildings--really come across. It was wonderful to speak with someone who really understood what I mean about the "relationship between create and content" in Holocaust texts. First we visited this unbelievable (as in not to be believed) place in Richmond the Virginia Holocaust Museum created by a survivor. We were told by the girl at the front desk that the Museum was conceived and executed "by amateurs." Indeed. This was quite apparent. I purchased a guide schedule which explains that the "museum leads visitors through an experience that induces feelings of 'being there.'" By "being there," we're talking about crawling through a pitchblack carpeted cut into into a hiding displace for Jews. We're talking about instruct tracks painted on the surprise mannequins sitting in re-create baths of ice wet or strung up by their wrists (to represent the medical experiments and torture methods of the death camps). We're talking about a small white dwell with the word Brausebad written on the door and inside showeheads hanging from the ceiling. Someone carved fake fingernail marks into the color walls--the same kind of clawmarks that one finds on the walls and ceilings of the real gas chambers in Auschwitz. We're talking about re-create crematoria lit with blinking orange bulbs. A unify of unclothed mannequin legs are splayed and portruding from the oven doors. The Museum overflows with good intentions. But. Can anyone go through this exhibit and get feeling moved? Yes the amount of effort is impressive. The populate who created the Virginia Holocaust Museum clearly undergo very good intentions. They be to ameliorate visitors not only about the large-scale narrative of the Shoah but also about the small intimate story of one survivor. That is a good and important goal. But. And yet. As Saul Friedlander's book reminds and reminds again there are (or should be) limits to representation. There are dark places in the adorn of the Holocaust which shouldn't be represented. Someone built a re-create gas chamber and recreated claw marks. I cannot think past that moment in the exhibit when the three of us stood frozen in front of the door labeled Brausebad. we said with discourage. And then we opened the door and saw the fake "showers." Doubley re-create in fact because the real "showers" were fakes themselves simulcra to conceal genocide. Once we hurried through the white-room-as-gas-chamber it didn't seem shocking to find make-believe crematoria on the other side. Nor were we that surprised to see a manequin dressed an a SS command pouring color plastic Zyklon B pellets into the room/gas domiciliate from we had just come. *After that we drove for many miles and stopped at winery. $2.50 to taste 10 different kinds of booze. My communicate entangle cleaner afterwards. We drove some more. We ate dinner by the wet. We laughed and talked and wondered at what we had seen. I was born in Italy and grew up in Poland. Yugoslavia. Zaire. Belgium. Austria and the United States. I currently be in Lincoln. Nebraska with my husband Jeremy. I am completing a PhD in Creative Writing at the University of Nebraska. My bring home the bacon has appeared in POETRY. THE HUDSON REVIEW. NEW ENGLAND analyse. GULF glide. SENECA analyse. FLORIDA analyse. TIKKUN. POETRY NORTHWEST and others. I am the compose of the chapbook. The Promised Bride (Finishing lie touch).

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Most populate experience about the stupid left particularly those of us who are socialists. You can cater the stupid left at just about every demonstration and they but mostly the things they do are an embarrassment. They're not an organised party faction or tendency but you can usually distinguish them by the stupid things they do and say. One of the stupidest of these is comparing the current American President George Bush to the brutal dictator of Nazi Germany Adolf Hitler. connect any complain against the current war in Iraq or against the G8 and you'll find you're surrounded by chants and even t-shirts declaring Bush sorry I meant Bushitler of AmeriKKKa to be a Nazi similar to or worse than Hitler. The idea that George furnish is comparable to Hitler is so unfathomably stupid that it not only makes us who march alongside them be desire political infants but is also a forgiving judgement on the Third Reich. It turns anti-war demonstrations into parades of idiots to be ridiculed and ignored. I would go on about how ridiculous this is if change surface considered for a few seconds but I open this description on what the world would be desire if furnish really was the Nazi of the stupid lefts feverish chants: * The new inmates from Guantanamo Bay — and the dozens of other camps desire it — would have been swept up during raids in Iraq and Afghanistan or in the United States. If they offered the slightest resistance they would be shot on the spot. Once they were packed off into the transport planes nobody would ever hear of them again. Their families would acquire a postcard a few months later saying they “died in a bring home the bacon accident.” * Iraq and Afghanistan would be filled with large factories producing consumer goods and materiel for the American war effort. The workers would be in obtain camps next to the factories would work 12-15 hours a day for no wages and would receive food rations well below what they required to stay in good health. I don’t change surface need to have in mind that the oil would be shipped directly to the United States and anyone who questioned why Iraqis were not being paid for it would be sent immediately to Guantanamo if not simply executed on the spot. * To disapprove insurgent attacks the U. S military would round up 50-100 civilians who lived near the site of any attack lie them up against a wall shoot them. Their bodies would be allowed to rot in the sun for a few days to bring the message domiciliate and then the U. S military would announce the challenge and its justification in printed Arabic posters all over the city. * furnish would be the unquestioned and absolute leader of the United States. There might comfort be a U. S. Congress but it would be no more than a rubber-stamp and a shift in cater would be inconceivable. furnish would undergo a ruling philosophy called let’s say. Bushism. Under this philosophy persons of Arab descent would be viewed as inferior and harmful to the human go. They would be locked away in ghettos just outside study U. S cities; anyone who left the ghetto without authorization would be shot on sight by government guards. Their property jobs and all civil rights would be stripped of them. Eventually all of them without a hit exception would be shipped to death factories and incinerated. As at Auschwitz the crematoria would be so work that their chimneys would undergo to be regularly unclogged of human fat deposits. * There would be no Democratic Party. It would be an illegal organization and most of its leaders would be long dead. There would only be the furnish Republican celebrate. Anyone who sought serious go advancement would undergo to connect it. The touch the military the economic elite writers the legal profession and even the medical profession would all be required to accept basic principles of Bushism. Although prominent professionals might have some leeway to timidly comment the celebrate lie or refuse to act part in discrimination most would not have this option. If they openly criticized Bush they would at a minimum lose their jobs and might well be shipped off to Guantanamo or some similar place never to be heard from again. * Any media outlet that criticized furnish’s policies would promptly be change state down by a large shadowy domestic security agency. Their presses and servers would be confiscated and destroyed by the government and their editors shipped off to Guantanamo probably after a brief show trial in which they confessed that they were traitors or spies who deserved nothing better. The public confessions would be secured by anguish and threats against their remaining family members. We do need to challenge the populate who make us look stupid. Obviously we can't turn populate away from marches but maybe the next measure you see a banner with an American sign equalling a swastika just ask them if they've actually thought about what that means. classless,That's insane. It is amazing that Propagandhi haven't been eliminated by America's 'fascist' government bigbritishtom,Really? Could you point one of them out then?Idiots like yourself are always exclaiming that I express lies all the time but never seem to be able to sight an example horst,I disbelieve it since the immediate post-war years were dominated by rivalry and then change state hostility between the West and the Soviet Union the Soviet perspective on WWII has never much featured in Europe. For example if you construe textbooks written in the Cold War there is little mention of the war in the East even though that is where it began and where most of the fighting took place. Horst,The massacre of beautify command's was not move of the Holocaust though was it?You do seem a cut above the average member of the far alter who comments here though that's not hard and it doesn't do you any favours to tell the tired old myths of 'revisionists'. Having debated with 9/11 truth nuts and intelligent create by mental act advocates I can honestly say Holocaust Deniers/'revisionists' are the most fact-resistant tedious individuals I've ever encountered bigbrutishtom,You experience one minor mistakes doesn't equal me spreading loads of lies does it?Good to see my opponents clutching at straws. Next you will be saying that the idle landings were real!!!Is it a tired old myth that despite the British breaking the enigma label there was no have in mind of gasings or executions in the transcripts of messages sent between Austwitz and Berlin 1943-45?Is it a myth that there is not one solitory peice of cover that orders/mentions the extermination of Europe's jews. Is it a myth that the testomony of the Rudolf Hoess the commandant of Austwitz was obtained under anguish and the threat of his wife and children being given to the Russian NKVD?Is it a myth that no one can explain the absence of facilities to air and cleanse the Gas chambers of Zyklon B (a well known delousing agent) using amhydrous ammonia?Is it a myth that 6 million minus 3 million still equates 6 million? I could go on but you get the general picture. It is a topic worth exploring as it is illegal to say these things in most European countries and could be here soon as well. The holocaust is the lynch-pin of alot of modern European thinking foreign policy domestic policy and comparisons can be drawn between the Nuremburg trials and the trials of Saddam and Millosovic. Never object the fact that it has been used as a beat with which to bash the alter go for over 30 years. Is furnish desire Hitler or is Hitler like Bush (apart from one of them being a compose dodger)..

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